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Below are various questions that may be of interest to Griers Fork residents. They cover a wide variety of community issues. 

Select from the topics below to link to specific questions and answers: 

General Association Organization
Property Manager
Finances
Greenway and Landscaping
Green Thumb Committee
Streets
Parking
Meetings

 


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General Association Organization

Q. How was the Griers Fork Homeowners Association created?

A. LandCraft Properties is the developer of Griers Fork. They purchased the land, laid out the lots, and built the streets and other infrastructure. LandCraft then sold the lots to the builders, Eastwood and Pulte, who built the houses and sold them to homeowners. LandCraft prepared and recorded the documents that created and govern the association. LandCraft, along with Eastwood and Pulte, are the Declarants in the documents and were in control of the association until the homeowners became organized in January 2000.

Q. What are the association documents?

A. Griers Fork has three formal documents:

1. The Declaration of Covenants, Conditions, and Restrictions. This sets forth certain restrictions regulating the use and occupancy of properties within Griers Fork and are binding on all properties. It also grants the association powers to maintain the common area, to enforce the restrictions, and to collect and disburse assessments. The Declaration was recorded with the Mecklenburg County Register of Deeds on October 13, 1998.

Every property owner should have received a copy of the Declaration from their closing attorney. This document is available online by clicking on the link above.

2. The Articles of Incorporation. This establishes GRIERS FORK OWNERS' ASSOCIATION, INC. (our legal name) as a non-profit corporation under the laws of North Carolina and basically allows the association to function. The Articles were filed with the Secretary of State on July 10, 1998.

3. The Bylaws. These specify how meetings of association members and the Board of Directors will be held as well as the powers and duties of the board and officers. They were adopted by LandCraft Properties on June 18, 1998.

The Board of Directors also adopted a set of guidelines for the interpretation of the Declaration and for setting up the architectural application process. These were distributed to homeowners in March 2000. The Board of Directors and Architectural Review Committee reviewed, updated, and redistributed the guidelines in March 2001. (See the Architectural Review page.)

Q. Have any of these documents changed since their adoption?

A. Yes, the Declaration was amended in November 1999 by LandCraft Properties to bring the 32 lots in the new section at the end of McGloughlin Way Court into the jurisdiction of the association.

The Bylaws were amended at the 2001 association meeting to change Board of Directors terms from one to two years. Terms will be staggered so that at least two members will remain on the board and maintain continuity each year.

No other changes or amendments have been made to the Articles, Declaration, or Bylaws.

Q. How can I get a copy of these documents?

A. Request these from Dave Wiggins, Griers Fork Secretary by e-mail to contact@griersfork.org or by phone at 704-504-5403.

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Property Management

Q. Who is the Griers Fork property manager?

A. Effective October 1, 2007, Cedar Management Group is the new property manager for Griers Fork, This section will be updated soon.

Prism Real Estate Services. Angela Short is the president of Prism, and she has a staff of several property managers, bookkeepers, maintenance staff, and others. Devi Hunter is the property manager who works with Griers Fork. You should direct questions to Devi, as she is most familiar with Griers Fork issues, or Angela, if Devi is not available. (See "Contacts" page for contact information.)

Q. What does Prism do?

A. Prism provides a variety of services, including:
-Collecting homeowner assessments, including mailing out notices and pursuing past due accounts.
-Reviewing and paying bills.
-Maintaining financial records to document income and expenses and maintaining association bank accounts.
-Preparing annual budgets and regular reports.
-Working with the landscaper and other contractors to arrange for products and services for the community and to monitor those products and services.
-Negotiating and maintaining contracts with various contractors.
-Performing minor repairs and maintenance.
-Maintaining a current list of property owner names and addresses.
-Maintaining files of meeting minutes and other association records.
-Preparing and mailing meeting notices and other information to association membership.
-Attending at least one association meeting and four board meetings annually.
-Locating and contracting for meeting space for association meetings.
-Responding to inquiries and advising the Board of Directors and residents on various legal and other association issues.
-Receiving Architectural review applications, transmitting these to the Board of Directors or Architectural Review Committee, and preparing responses to applicants notifying them of board or committee decisions.
-Receiving complaints and questions from association members and transmitting these to the board.
-Preparing and mailing letters to individuals concerning association violations and other issues at the direction of the Board of Directors.
-Serving as liaison between the association and various local government agencies, the developer, and others.
-Providing continuity for association operations when board membership changes.

Q. How much does Prism charge for these services?

A. $3 per month per property, or $36 per year. Total charges are $546 monthly or $6,552 per year for 182 properties.

Q. Could one or more Griers Fork residents provide these services and save the association the expense of a property manager?

A. This is possible, but it is unlikely that anyone would be willing to take the time necessary to perform these services. Additionally, it is unlikely that residents would have the knowledge, experiences, skills, and contacts that Prism staff has. If Griers Fork became self-managing, it is likely that maintenance and financial standing would suffer, and architectural changes and rules violations would go unchecked. Retaining an experienced property manager is necessary for an efficiently functioning association.

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Finances

Q. What are the annual association dues?

 
A. Dues for 2002 are $100 per property. The Board of Directors sets the amount but cannot increase the dues by more than 65 without approval by the association members.
 
Q. What are the association's expenses?
 
A. Expenses for 2001 (excluding legal fees) were as follows:
Management Category

Front Entrance Category
-Landscaping Service
-Water (Irrigation)
-Electricity
-Repairs
-Flowers
-Christmas Wreaths

Administrative Category
-Accounting/Tax Preparation
-Postage
-Copies and Printing
-Meetings
-Bank Charges

Insurance Category

Stop Signs and Stripes Category

Total

6,552.00

5,656.14
3,450.00
1,183.91
187.11
568.34
246.78
20.00

1,254.46
200.00
365.68
603.78
75.00
10.00

860.00

1,210.68

15,533.28

The association's bank balance on January 1, 2001 was $9,188.67. The balance on January 1, 2002 was $10,675.46.

 
Q. What changes are expected for 2002?
 
A. Most of the association's expenses occur regularly each month are somewhat predictable, but special expenditures occur for repairs and special projects.
 
The $1,210.68 for stop signs was a one time expense.
 
Repairs are hard to predict. The association paid $350 to have loose stones reset at the gazebo, and upgraded the sign light and irrigation system. Repair expenses for 2002 could be less, but this is unknown.
 
The association hopes to participate in Charlotte's tree co-op program, which will cost about $800 to have the city plant trees along the front entrance.
 
If the Hospitality Committee becomes active, the association could have expenses for picnics or other activities.
 
Q. What is the association's annual income?
 
A. If everyone pays promptly, it would be $18,200, but many people don't pay promptly and collections don't always occur in the year they are due. Eventually, except for bankruptcies, all dues will be collected.
 
Q. What steps does the association take to collect dues?
 
A. The steps are as follows:
 
Steps by Prism Realty:
  • Annual bills are sent out by December 1.
  • Assessments are due on January 1 and late on February 1.
  • Late fee of $25 is charged for all accounts not received by February 1. (All late fees collected are deposited in the Griers Fork account. Once a month, Prism is paid ½ of fees collected that month.)
  • 1st notices are sent approximately February 15 by regular mail. These are reminder letters and show the $25 late fee.
  • 2nd notices are sent approximately May 1 by regular mail. These state that payment is due by June 1 and delinquent July 1.
  • 3rd notices are sent in mid-July by regular and certified mail. They state that if payment is not received by 15 days from letter, account will be turned over to an attorney for collection and a lien will be placed on the property.
  • Note: If homeowner has difficulty paying by the due date AND calls Prism to arrange for special payment schedule (such as $50 in January and $50 in July) AND homeowner makes payments as agreed, late fees are waived and no legal action is taken. Generally, an owner who pays $50 in January without arranging for a special payment schedule will receive a 1st notice by May 1 that $50 is due June 1 and delinquent July 1. The $25 late fee is charged on July 1.
  • Prism provides list of delinquent accounts to the attorney (Sellers-Hinshaw) by September 1. The list includes the last known owners name and address and the property ID.
  • Prism will refer all questions concerning assessment payments to the attorney from this point.

Steps by the attorney:

  • The attorney will do a title search, which could take up to a month.
  • The attorney will send a demand letter stating a lien will be filed if payment is not received in 5 days.
  • The attorney will file the lien 2 weeks after sending the letter. Copies of the lien go to the attorney, the owner, and Prism. (Original to the court.)
  • A lien means that a property cannot be sold unless the debt is paid off. Liens that are not paid off in a timely manner may affect credit ratings.
  • The attorney will add a one-time 8% annual interest charge as specified in the DCC&R on the day the lien is filed.
  • At this point, owner owes $100 assessment, $25 late fee, 8% interest, and legal fees, including a $45 lien filing fee.
  • If the owner pays promptly, attorney will deduct the legal and filing fees from the payment and send a check for the balance to the association. The balance to the association includes the assessment, the late fee, and the interest.
  • If the owner does not pay promptly, the attorney will bill the association for the legal and filing fees. When the owner pays, the association gets reimbursed for the attorney bill it paid. (The account may have accrued additional legal fees, however, and these are retained by the attorney.)
  • If the homeowner offers to pay in installments, the payment schedule is forwarded from the attorney through Prism to the board for approval.

Prism will

  • Prism will request board approval to authorize foreclosure by the attorney.
  • Prism will send a notice of foreclosure to the owner and offer time (generally 2 weeks) to settle the account by. Owner must contact and contact with attorney.

The attorney will:

  • If still unpaid, the attorney posts a notice of sale in the newspaper.
  • The property (actually the equity in the property) is sold to the highest bidder at the Mecklenburg County courthouse.
  • The attorney will bid on behalf of the association an amount to cover funds owed. This ensures other bidders will bid a sufficient amount to cover the amount owed.
  • Usually the bank or mortgage company will bid, as will speculators.
  • Once sold, the association gets amount owed out of the sale price.

General notes:

  • Legally, certified letters are not necessary. If a letter does not come back from the post office as undeliverable, it legally was received.
  • When a house is sold, it is the closing attorneys responsibility to inform the purchaser that the property is subject to the DCC&R and homeowners dues will be charged. The closing attorney also must provide a copy of the DCC&R.
  • If a homeowner files bankruptcy in the same year a lien is filed, the association generally will not receive any payment. If a homeowner files bankruptcy in the year following a lien filing, the associations account generally is paid, although likely not in a timely manner.
  • If a payment check bounces twice, Prism adds the bank fee to the homeowners account.

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Greenway and Landscaping

Q. What common area does the association own?

A. None, actually. When LandCraft subdivided Griers Fork, the county required them to set aside area along the creek to protect it from development. Known as the greenway, this area includes all of the front entranceway as well as a strip along the creek behind houses along Griers Fork Drive. On December 19, 2000 the Mecklenburg County Board of Commissioners approved conveyance of the greenway to the county Park and Recreation.

All land within Griers Fork is either in individually owned lots, street right-of-way, or the greenway.

Q. Will the Parks Department maintain the greenway as a public park?

A. Not likely. The purpose of the greenway is to protect the stream from development. The Parks Department's preference would be for the greenway to remain as natural as possible. There currently are no plans to maintain it as a park, but the creek is on the county's master greenway plan. It is possible that the county would build a greenway trail, but it also is possible that a trail would be on the opposite side of the creek.

Q. Will the Parks Department allow the association to continue to maintain the entrance sign, lawn, and other landscaping?

A. Yes, they have given the association permission to continue to maintain the entranceway. However, the Parks Department prefers native plants on park property and frown upon non-native ornamental trees.

Q. Who is the landscaper and what do they do?

A. L.P.I. Landscaping is now the landscaping company for Griers Fork. They will maintain the grass, shrubs, and other plants at the front entranceway. They will maintain the grassed area from the Griers Fork sign and gazebo at Brown-Grier Road to just past the drainage ditch. They also mow the area along Brown-Grier Road where the Pulte and Eastwood signs used to be. Additional services include regular aerating, reseeding, weed control, and fertilizing in lawn areas.

They will charge $275 a month. This is a reduction of $50 a month from the previous landscaper. (Monthly payments are constant, which is standard for landscaping services. They lose money in the summer but make it up in the winter.)

Q. Could the association hire a different company or a resident to maintain the entrance area?

A. Yes, but they would have to provide full landscaping services, not just mowing. If you know someone who can provide the required services and would like to make a bid, have them contact Prism Realty.

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Green Thumb Committee

Q. What does the Green Thumb Committee do?

A. The committee planted spring annuals and fall pansies at the entrance monument in 2001, but could do almost anything else involving plants or community beautification. Ideas being discussed include enlarging the flower bed at the monument and adding ornamental trees and other plants. It's really up to the committee to decide what direction it will take and what projects it will concentrate on.

Q. What else could the Green Thumb Committee do?

A. Other possibilities include the following:
-Being liaison with the landscaper concerning their services and charges.
-Investigating possible alternate landscaping service providers.
-Being liaison with the Parks Department concerning use and maintenance of the greenway.
-Being liaison with the Charlotte City Arborist for the Tree Co-op Program.-Providing gardening tips in The Fork in the Road.
-Recognizing residents who have especially attractive yards with "Yard of the Month" or other awards.

-Organizing special projects, such as planting annuals or other flowers around the Griers Fork sign, stream cleanup, or decorating the entrance sign for holidays. The committee could organize these projects as community work days.

Q. How do I volunteer?

A. Call Dave Wiggins at 504-5403 or send an e-mail to contact@griersfork.org.

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Streets

Q. Who owns the streets?

A. The City of Charlotte took ownership of the streets on October 1, 2001. Although the city annexed Griers Fork on July 1, the city Engineering Department had to review the subdivision plan and certify that the streets were up to standards before the Charlotte Department of Transportation (CDOT) would accept maintenance.

(Normally, the developer, LandCraft Properties, would have transferred ownership of the streets to the North Carolina Department of Transportation for maintenance. The state, not counties, maintains all public streets in North Carolina outside municipalities. Upon annexation, city acceptance would have been automatic. However, the streets never were taken over by the state.)

Q. What could the city do about speeding and cut-through traffic?

A. The city has programs in place to reduce speeds and traffic. These include installing speed humps and 4-way stops, and setting the speed limit at 25 mph. The lower speed limit requires support by petition of at least 75% of the property owners on the street. Speed humps require a petition but also require a large traffic volume.

4-way stop signs also require a large volume of traffic as well as 75% support of property owners along the street. However, according to its web site, the city does not install 3-way stops.

The homeowners association obtained petitions to request 25 MPH speed limits on Griers Fork Drive, McGloughlin Way Court, and Dingess Road. Sufficient signatures were obtained from Dingess Road and Griers Fork Drive residents, and CDOT installed speed limit signs on Dingess Road the week of November 12, 2001 and on Griers Fork Drive in March 2003. Petitions for McGloughlin Way Court have not been circulated.

For more information on the Charlotte Neighborhood Traffic Programs for Residential Traffic Calming, see the following web site:

Neighborhood Traffic Management

Q. What other effects will city ownership have on Griers Fork streets?

A. City ordinances prohibit the placement of basketball goals within city right-of-way. CDOT will request residents to remove basketball goals that it becomes aware of. CDOT will remove them if they remain.

Q. Who installed the stop signs on Griers Fork Drive at McGloughlin Way Court and Dingess Road at Meadhaven Drive?

A. The association. Since the state would not put these in, and the intersections probably do not meet city's traffic volume criteria for additional stop signs, the association paid to have them installed in early 2001 before annexation occurred. The local CDOT inspector has said that the signs are acceptable to the city.

Q. What did the association do to bring about the installation of street lights?

A. It was a long, long process. It began in June 2000 when residents met to learn about Mecklenburg County's street light program. That effort got off to a slow start and eventually fizzled when volunteers didn't come forth to collect petition signatures.

A second effort began in March 2002 after Charlotte had annexed Griers Fork. This time, the association decided to go with the city street light program and quickly submitted a request for a plan from Duke Power through the Charlotte Department of Transportation. At this point things bogged down, and Duke Power didn't provide the plan until January 2003.

The next step was to collect petition signatures. This went surprisingly well as a small but determined corps of volunteers combed the neighborhood until they found enough people home and got the required signatures. Step one was accomplished!

The second objective was to come with $18,794.88 to pay for the lights. The association had enough funds to pay about half, but needed a way to raise the rest. The board decided to apply for a loan because this would be easier to accomplish than a special assessment. A special assessment would require approval of at least 2/3 of property owners at a meeting. Getting a 30% quorum to show up was not a strong possibility, and proxies would be required, which meant more signatures.

The bank approved the loan, but it was put on hold until the outcome of a third alternative was decided. The association applied for a Neighborhood Matching Grant on March 15 through the Charlotte Department of Neighborhood Development. In a mild surprise, the city notified the association at the first of May that the grant was approved. It took another month for them to provide the grant, but $9,397.44 was worth waiting for.

Duke Power finally received both halves of their payment on June 12, 2003. It took another few weeks for the city to review and review the plans and for Duke Power to order materials. But the end in almost near. The lights are going up!

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Parking

Q. What can the association do about cars parked on the streets?
 
A. The association does not have jurisdiction over parking since the streets are public. The association can send "Please be a courteous neighbor" letter, but only the city can enforce parking.
 
The following are questions from the association and responses from the Charlotte Department of Transportation from September 2001:
 
GFHOA: Is it illegal for people to park where they block neighbors' driveways?
 
CDOT: I would think parking to obstruct driveway access is illegal, because no legal access (legal driveway) of someone's lot (residential or commercial) to a public street adjacent to that property can be denied - not even by CDOT.
 
GFHOA: Is it illegal for people to park within a certain distance of an intersection or stop sign?

CDOT: I am not sure - however we resolve parking too close to an intersection by signing (no parking here to corner) to clear intersection sight distance triangles or sightlines, and would also sign as far back as necessary to prohibit obstructing stop sign visibility on approach, which sometimes happens when the street grade would allow parked cars to obstruct the sign.
 
GFHOA: Is it illegal for people to park at the end of a sidewalk such as where it turns to the street at the beginning of a cul-de-sac?
 
CDOT: This could be a handicap access issue, or just a pedestrian access issue, but again we would resolve by signing to restrict parking.
 
GFHOA: Is it illegal to park on one side of the street when people are parking on the other side, meaning that cars cannot pass each other at that point?

CDOT: Parking on both sides of any city street is allowed, unless the lanes are too narrow and congestion is so great that side-swipes are happening or potential, or mostly if emergency vehicles can't access, then we would restrict one side by signing.  Usually the fire department advises us of that situation and makes the request.  Some of the newer subdivisions are being built by developers who are squeezing streets in with minimum width to have more space for lots, and it is beginning to be a problem with the newer, longer ladder fire trucks to maneuver through.
 
GFHOA: Is it illegal to park in a cul-de-sac in a manner that hinders turn arounds? We have some people whose guests double park in cul-de-sacs during parties .
 
CDOT: Yes double-parking on any city street is illegal, and fire truck/emergency vehicle access is an issue.  Again we would sign to restrict and have enforced to bring into compliance.
 
GFHOA: Is it illegal to park in front of a mailbox during mail delivery hours? Is that an issue to take up with the post office?

CDOT: I guess so, we have had to sign for garbage pick-up days on certain streets that some people were violating the directive by the sanitation department for pickup.  I have had people complain of neighbors causing their mail not to be delivered because the drive-thru mailman (woman) don't not get out - we have signed to clear.  You might also get input from the Postmaster.
 
GFHOA: What can I do if someone parks in front of my house with the tires on the grass in the right-of-way? Since this grass is my responsibility, is it considered mine? Can I have them towed?
CDOT: Because you are required to maintain the right-of-way adjacent to your property, you do not own it - however it is illegal to park on the shoulder, sidewalk, curb or right-of-way - but lots of people do it, especially in the absence of sidewalk.  We sign for this also, and I don't think the police would even cite without a sign.
 
GFHOA: At our front entrance, we have a grassed common area. Can we have people who park in this grass towed or take some other action?
 
CDOT: If it is in the intersection sight triangle, I would talk to the owner and explain they can not park there and yes, I could have it towed when found, because it is a safety issue ... if not in sight triangle, then it is on city or state right-of-way, and again would probably need a sign for police to feel comfortable enforcing.
 
GFHOA: If any of these are illegal, what recourse do we have. Can we get police to issue citations? Can we have cars towed?
 
CDOT: Again, some or all of these are probably, or could be illegal and covered by code/ordinance by circumstance, if not directly violating a code (congestion must be present or safety compromised), but again most of the time we sign to restrict and the signs can be designed to cover certain circumstances, and then police will enforce.
 
There are many reasons citizens complain of their neighbor's parking habits (unsightly vehicles, cluttering the street, making unsafe for unseen small children crossing, difficulty in backing from driveways with vehicles parked on opposite side, obstructing sight exiting from driveway, forces traffic over center into opposing lane with parked vehicles on hill/curve, difficulty in turning into street w/parked vehicles too close to intersection, sight at intersection obstructed, blocking easy driveway access/turn radius, businesses taking all on-street parking during working hours, emergency vehicles can't access, parking in front of my house instead of their own, neighbor with too many cars to fit into driveway and park on street, etc) and usually we sign to restrict, either by petition designed for their needs (the petition allows them to choose the restriction) [CDOT did not provide the "or"] and then ask police to enforce whatever the sign designates.
 
I suggest you discuss these problems openly at your meetings, and find a consensus of what you ALL are willing to endure yourselves as a whole neighborhood and then contact me to implement.  We and you cannot target any particular person, without restricting others.  Sometimes time restrictions work well to confine business parking and allow residents evenings and  weekends, however they must also comply with the restriction during the day. The ONLY parking we have that restricts some and not others, is the PERMITTED PARKING PROGRAM, and that would not work here.  Again, it is for urban neighborhoods mixed with business properties, and they pay for that privilege ($30/yr, $3/bumper sticker or hanger with a 2-vehicle minimum/property).
 
You might want to advise the neighborhood that if all can't be courteous, and respond to requests either by talking directly to them, or in newsletters (although I have had violators say they don't read the newsletters), that you will need to restrict by signing.

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Meetings

Q. When are meetings of association members held?

A. The first association meeting was held on January 6, 2000 when the first homeowner Board of Directors was elected. The second meeting was held on January 8, 2001. An annual meeting will occur each January for the purpose of electing board members and conducting other association business.

 
Additional meetings have been held to discuss street lights and Community Watch. Generally, meetings other than the annual meeting in January will be called from time to time to discuss specific community issues and no association votes will be conducted.

The next association meeting is scheduled for January 8, 2002 at Good Shepherd Methodist Church.

Q. Can additional official association meetings be held?

A. Yes, any board member or at least 20% of the property owners can request a special meeting of association members. The request must be in writing, and a notice of the meeting must be mailed by the association secretary (or by Prism Realty, if the secretary delegates this task) to all property owners at least 30 days before the meeting. Only actions taken at duly called annual or special meetings are considered official association actions.

Q. When does the Board of Directors meet?

A. The board meets monthly, generally on the fourth Tuesday.

Q. Can association members attend board meetings?

A. Yes. If you have an issue you would like to present to the board, contact Prism Realty at 535-8558 for further information

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